You’ve Got a Friend in Me | Pomplamoose Ft. Taylor Davis

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A cover of You’ve Got a Friend in Me by Pomplamoose.

CREDITS

Lead Vocals: Nataly Dawn
Keys: Jack Conte
Violin 1: Taylor Davis
Violin 2: Hector Gonzalez
Violin 3: Jackson Ronnow
Cello: Chrissy Johnson
Guitar: Brian Green
Bass: Nick Campbell
Drums: Ben Rose
Engineer: Tim Sonnefeld
Mixing/Mastering: Caleb Parker
Cinematography: Ricky Chavez & Merlin Showalter
Video editing: Dominic Mercurio
Producers: Ben Rose & Caleb Parker

Recorded at Band House Studios in Los Angeles.

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228 comments
1
Dave In Austin  Jun 28, 2019 • 8:45:02pm

Hey Charlie……

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 28, 2019 • 8:56:19pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

That would be one painful wipeout.

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 8:58:32pm

My little town is shaken right now. We’ve lost two firefighters this year.

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:00:05pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

I’ve done that, a couple of times. Great Sand Dunes National Park. It’s like skiing on the stickiest snow imaginable.

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:01:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:04:26pm

I got left behind like a common sinner in a “Left Behind” movie on the last thread.

Racism continues unabated with TSA:

Riz Ahmed’s Star Wars Celebration Chicago Appearance Was Canceled Because Homeland Security Wouldn’t Let Him Board His Flight (Goes to Gizmondo)

On the first day of Star Wars Celebration Chicago this past April, it was suddenly announced that Riz Ahmed—who played Imperial courier-turned Rebel hero Bodhi Rook in Rogue One—had to cancel his appearance at the convention. Now, the actor’s revealed why, and it’s another reflection of being a minority attempting to travel in the U.S.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:12:21pm

Charlton Comics, 1958

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:13:01pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

My little town is shaken right now. We’ve lost two firefighters this year.

A state trooper was killed in my county last week from a douchecanoe driver on US-26 in the county seat.

An elderly woman was stopped on the highway waiting to turn into the cemetery. Said canoe plowed into her at high speed, crossed the centre line out of control after hitting her, and ran head on into a state trooper coming the opposite direction.

The trooper and the asshat were both killed: Said asshat was ejected through his windshield (no seat belts). Another motorist tried to save said asshat with CPR but was not successful.

The trooper was stationed in Scottsbluff. A memorial service was held in the community centre in Bridgeport, then a funeral procession of police transported his body to Scottsbluff. Police were in attendance from every Panhandle county, along with Goshen and Laramie Counties in Wyoming.

Fire departments also turned out for the procession from my county, with all three cities (Bridgeport, Bayard, Broadwater) in the procession. (All three fire brigades were involved in the resulting fire from the crash, and their EMTs were involved in attempting to save the lives of those involved.)

The elderly woman was uninjured and released after a checkup at the hospital in Bridgeport.

Governor Ricketts ordered the flag in Nebraska to half-staff.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:20:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:22:13pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:22:42pm

Trump loves autocrats especially ones who praise him.

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:24:40pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

A Colorado State Trooper was killed a couple of weeks ago on I-76, struck by a vehicle while he was securing and investigating a bad accident involving a pregnant woman and a child. I drove by his HQ in Commerce City last Sunday, his vehicle was still parked up front, completely covered in flowers. Trooper William Moden was promoted to Master Trooper posthumously. He was 37 when he was killed.

That’s how old I am right now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:39:54pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

A Colorado State Trooper was killed a couple of weeks ago on I-76, struck by a vehicle while he was securing and investigating a bad accident involving a pregnant woman and a child. I drove by his HQ in Commerce City last Sunday, his vehicle was still parked up front, completely covered in flowers. Trooper William Moden was promoted to Master Trooper posthumously. He was 37 when he was killed.

That’s how old I am right now.

That’s terrible.

While police officer is not the most dangerous job, that job can be dangerous enough.

Photos: Services for Fallen Nebraska State Patrol Trooper Jerry Smith (Goes to the Scottsbluff Star-Herald, fifty-four photos)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:50:34pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

I am 37 as well.

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:53:44pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

So is our fellow Lizard in Isreal Archangelus. @Arch_LGF

We’re the really old Millennials.

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:56:01pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

We’re the really old Millennials.

Targetpractice is in this very specific age group as well, if I’m not mistaken.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 9:59:04pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹

Hundreds Gather for Tribute to Fallen Nebraska Trooper Jerry Smith (goes to the Scottsbluff Star-Herald with a text article about the procession in Scottsbluff, and fifty-six photographs)

As the procession from Bridgeport came into Scottsbluff, the call went out across the Panhandle for people to attend to pay last respects.

A state trooper car was parked in front of the funeral home in Scottsbluff which handled the trooper’s services. It was buried in flowers, flags, and other tributes.

He was fifty-two. He left his wife, three children, and several grandchildren.

He was retired Army enlisted, serving from 1986 to 2011.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:00:33pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

I am 37 as well.

Get off my lawn, says the fifty-eight year-old boomer. /s

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:15:31pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

I don’t think of myself as a Millennial.

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sagehen  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:16:43pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

I got left behind like a common sinner in a “Left Behind” movie on the last thread.

Racism continues unabated with TSA:

Riz Ahmed’s Star Wars Celebration Chicago Appearance Was Canceled Because Homeland Security Wouldn’t Let Him Board His Flight (Goes to Gizmondo)

(more)

Rizwan “Riz” Ahmed, also known as Riz MC, is an English actor, rapper, and activist of Pakistani descent. As an actor, he has won one Emmy Award, out of two Emmy nominations, and was also nominated for a Golden Globe, Screen Actors Guild Award, and three British Independent Film Awards. Wikipedia
Born: December 1, 1982 (age 36 years), Wembley, United Kingdom

He’s also got a verse in this Hamilton Mixtape of “Immigrants, We Get the Job Done”

The Hamilton Mixtape: Immigrants (We Get The Job Done)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:26:24pm

Coward who resigned from the Senate rather than stand up to Trump is telling us how both sides are really to blame here.

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:26:30pm

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:27:35pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think of myself as a Millennial.

Gen X? Border? Agenerational?

Did I just make up a word?

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:31:40pm

I consider myself a very elder Millennial (born 1982). I was the first person in my whole family to use the Internet.

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mmmirele  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:33:05pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

Coward who resigned from the Senate rather than stand up to Trump is telling us how both sides are really to blame here.

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ETA That asshat is trending on Twitter!

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:34:05pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

Coward who resigned from the Senate rather than stand up to Trump is telling us how both sides are really to blame here.

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He couldn’t support DT because birtherism. And THAT’S all?! (They’re all truly revolting people.)

Cheechako, thanks for the good wishes. Heading for Fairbanks on Sunday, thunderstorms are predicted, then into Yukon territory. (And when I say bloody hot, I mean unexpectedly so for Alaska — high 70’s would be a relief in lots of places.)

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Dread Pirate  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:36:23pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:37:35pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

I find I track a little closer to Gen X than Milennial.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:39:41pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate

Shameless liars, aren’t they?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:40:57pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

I consider myself a very elder Millennial (born 1982). I was the first person in my whole family to use the Internet.

Does that make me an elder Millennial? I was also the first person in my family to use the Internet (born 1960). /s

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:41:25pm

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹

Shameless liars, aren’t they?

Why would they have any shame since the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine is continually cranked up to 11?

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:44:21pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m the opposite. Isn’t that weird?!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:45:46pm

4th of July is still 6 days away and idiots are setting off fireworks.

There are two nights when I just lock the door and put the earplugs in 4th of July to deaden the firework noise that goes on and on and New Years eve where the idiots bring out the assault rifles and let them rip starting when the sun goes down…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:51:24pm

Best new Anvil in the world. They can’t keep up. Made in Michigan and on my list when it’s time

Facebook Post

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:53:18pm

My wife is steaming traditional tamales (in corn husks).

Funny that, how easy it is to get corn husks in the Cornhusker State.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:55:29pm

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mmmirele  Jun 28, 2019 • 10:59:38pm

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

4th of July is still 6 days away and idiots are setting off fireworks.

There are two nights when I just lock the door and put the earplugs in 4th of July to deaden the firework noise that goes on and on and New Years eve where the idiots bring out the assault rifles and let them rip starting when the sun goes down…

I hated the 24th of July in Salt Lake City. I lived near Liberty Park and that’s where the Pioneer Day fireworks display was. All that banging would freak the hell out of my cats. Thankfully the megachurch nearby stopped doing their 4th of July fireworks display a few years back. It was also startling my Nicki. But that doesn’t stop the kids from popping off fireworks. The stands have been up for weeks and they started selling fireworks last Sunday.

I have to admit, every time I see a fireworks stand, I just think back to the bottle rockets we had when I was a teen back in the 1970s in Houston and how at least one house in town would burn down every July due to bottle rockets landing on the cedar shake shingles. ETA: Fireworks were illegal in Houston but not in the county, which was where I lived. And of course the cops couldn’t search every single car crossing into the city, it was simply impossible. So houses would burn down every 4th.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 11:02:45pm

Stand by for much conservaderp butthurt across social media.

Megan Rapinoe accepts Twitter invite from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to visit House of Representatives (Goes to the Washington Post):

… Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) extended an invitation of her own on Twitter after Friday’s victory, offering to host Rapinoe and the rest of the national team at the House of Representatives.

“It may not be the White House, but we’d be happy to welcome @mPinoe & the entire #USWMNT for a tour of the House of Representatives anytime they’d like,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 28, 2019 • 11:03:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 11:08:37pm
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Cheechako  Jun 28, 2019 • 11:17:13pm

re: #26 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

He couldn’t support DT because birtherism. And THAT’S all?! (They’re all truly revolting people.)

Cheechako, thanks for the good wishes. Heading for Fairbanks on Sunday, thunderstorms are predicted, then into Yukon territory. (And when I say bloody hot, I mean unexpectedly so for Alaska — high 70’s would be a relief in lots of places.)

Could be very smokey in Fairbanks. Large wildfire just west of town.

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2019 • 11:35:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 11:48:02pm

LOL

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Dread Pirate  Jun 28, 2019 • 11:52:25pm

I’m not sure if this got noticed in all the other shit going on..

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 28, 2019 • 11:59:35pm

Apparently GrubHub is doing this to thousands of small restaurants across the country.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:00:05am

Looks like a kiddie-raping former pastor out of Ohio is going to the slammer for a long, long time.

A former minister in Ohio convicted of child sex trafficking after a woman said he groomed her for sex when she was 14 has been sentenced to life in prison.

A federal judge sentenced 40-year-old Anthony Haynes Thursday.

10tv.com

These were Federal charges - and there’s no parole in the Federal prison system (the Feds eliminated that back in 1987).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:10:20am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

Looks like a kiddie-raping former pastor out of Ohio is going to the slammer for a long, long time.

10tv.com

These were Federal charges - and there’s no parole in the Federal prison system (the Feds eliminated that back in 1987).

The article notes two other pastors in the same church were also convicted.

I suppose if he wasn’t black, Franklin Graham or others would be asking for Trump to pardon “a good Christian man who was led astray by sin.”

(Pardons and commutations of sentences get around the no parole aspect of a federal crime.)

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:20:50am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:22:01am

A black man was arrested for disorderly conduct, accused of trying to steal an IV machine.

He was in a hospital gown outside on a break. He is in hospital for double pneumonia.

Being hospitalised while black is apparently a crime.

The police also arrested two other people: his brother and the person making the video.

A walk outside of an Illinois hospital turned into a disorderly conduct charge for one Black patient.

Shaquille Dukes, 24, said he was racially profiled and accused of stealing an IV machine he was still connected to outside of FHN Memorial Hospital on June 9, according to the Journal-Standard.

atlantablackstar.com

He was following his doctor’s orders to take walks when he could. He also pleaded with the police to return his asthma inhaler, who only gave it to him when he collapsed. He was returned to the hospital by ambulance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:24:14am

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

Does that make me an elder Millennial? I was also the first person in my family to use the Internet (born 1960). /s

We fell into that odd cusp, sort of baby boomers, all my (older brothers and sisters) never got into anything hippie or alternative, my youngest sister liked Beatlemania but lost interest in them when they went psychedelic.

Some years later, I “rediscovered” Sergeant Pepper and Satanic Majesties, early Pink Floyd, the Grateful Dead and bands like that thanks to the underground FM stations in Chicago, but always felt rather out of place with my peers, who were into thud bands Bachmann Turner Overdrive or disco.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:35:19am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We fell into that odd cusp, sort of baby boomers, all my (older brothers and sisters) never got into anything hippie or alternative, my youngest sister liked Beatlemania but lost interest in them when they went psychedelic.

Some years later, I “rediscovered” Sergeant Pepper and Satanic Majesties, early Pink Floyd, the Grateful Dead and bands like that thanks to the underground FM stations in Chicago, but always felt rather out of place with my peers, who were into thud bands Bachmann Turner Overdrive or disco.

I like disco. I never went to one until I was in the Navy though (callback to the Village People there).

The first popular song I ever heard was “Roundabout” (in 1974) at Abrams Planetarium at Michigan State University, as my grandparents (who with I grew up) prohibited all popular music.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:40:00am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

I like disco. I never went to one until I was in the Navy though (callback to the Village People there).

The first popular song I ever heard was “Roundabout” (in 1974) at Abrams Planetarium at Michigan State University, as my grandparents (who with I grew up) prohibited all popular music.

There are actually a couple of disco songs I came to like, Disco Inferno and Rubber Band come to mind, but I did not at all go for the glitter-and-fashion lifestyle it was part of.

I had a friend whose parents forbade him to play Beatles albums after they said they were more popular than Jesus, but for that they never banned the Rolling Stones.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:45:15am

Big Brother and The Holding Company — Mr. Natural (1970)

Disco still sucks.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:46:18am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are actually a couple of disco songs I came to like, Disco Inferno and Rubber Band come to mind, but I did not at all go for the glitter-and-fashion lifestyle it was part of.

I had a friend whose parents forbade him to play Beatles albums after they said they were more popular than Jesus, but for that they never banned the Rolling Stones.

If I had to pick a favourite disco artist, it would be Donna Summer with KC and the Sunshine Band pulling a close second.

For a single favourite song I would go with “In the Bush.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:49:20am

My taste in music was forever altered by those underground FM stations in Chicago that aired whole album side jams, obscure artists like Captain Beefheart, Quicksilver Messenger or Bonzo Dog Band, and comedy artists like Firesign Theater and old National Lampoon Radio shows.

They let me know that there was music beyond the Top 40 and that even a number of those artists had a lot more going for them than we heard on AM radio.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:50:26am

Marianne Williamson has deep thoughts about a foreign policy solution to the deep problems in Syria.

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ericblair  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:51:07am

re: #48 Dave In Austin

The worst piece of economic reasoning I have ever read.foxnews.com …

Looks like this story about the asteroid 16 Psyche is making the rounds of the right wing rags. This asteroid in the main belt apparently looks like an exposed core of a rocky planet and its gold content dwarfs that of Earth. Of course, the wingnut goldbugs think that mining this gold would make everybody rich, instead of, for instance, making gold bars not worth picking up on the street. Because gold is magic.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:59:15am

re: #57 ericblair

Looks like this story about the asteroid 16 Psyche is making the rounds of the right wing rags. This asteroid in the main belt apparently looks like an exposed core of a rocky planet and its gold content dwarfs that of Earth. Of course, the wingnut goldbugs think that mining this gold would make everybody rich, instead of, for instance, making gold bars not worth picking up on the street. Because gold is magic.

A) NASA isn’t dragging it back to Earth.
B) I can imagine a private company taking control of it if it in fact has that much gold, to ensure only it makes money by selling tiny quantities.
C) Gold is valuable because it is scarce and people think that makes it valuable. Lots of scarce things aren’t particularly valuable.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 29, 2019 • 1:09:58am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 1:13:06am

This thread:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 29, 2019 • 1:18:21am

When either the Nautilus or the Okeanos Explorer do ROV dives said dives last but a few hours.

But currently the Nautilus is doing a marathon dive, coming up on most of a day with the ROV continuously at the seafloor. Youtube livestream has all the hours and is still live:

Nautilus Live | Channel 1 Stream

They are currently southwest of Kingman Reef:

goo.gl

They are investigating the undersea cliffs you can see in the google maps.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 1:21:41am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹

Just spent time in silence showering the President of Syria with a love so great that his insanity could not stand in its presence.

I just spent a lot of time glowering at the President of Syria with my Crazy Eyes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 1:25:06am

LOL

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ericblair  Jun 29, 2019 • 1:32:02am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

A) NASA isn’t dragging it back to Earth.
B) I can imagine a private company taking control of it if it in fact has that much gold, to ensure only it makes money by selling tiny quantities.
C) Gold is valuable because it is scarce and people think that makes it valuable. Lots of scarce things aren’t particularly valuable.

Yeah, there are a few technical challenges with dragging a rock the size of a minor planet back from beyond Mars’s orbit. And the space mining hype seems to have hit a few snags: good article here.

Ownership of asteroids is an interesting legal issue considering the wording of the 1967 Outer Space Treaty. Nations can’t “appropriate” celestial bodies, and by construction from other provisions of the treaty, neither can individuals or corporations. But you can’t stop anyone from mining, either, or interfere with their efforts. Including your competitors.

Sitting on an enormous pile of gold trying to meter it out to keep the price up is an interesting problem. Besides the fact that enough lead pointed at someone tends to make them give up their gold, the fact that everyone knows their gold could be worth nothing at any time would put a real damper on the price anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 1:41:17am

re: #64 ericblair

So you can turn lead into gold. /s

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 1:54:16am

This is awful. A woman who went to work for Answers in Genesis’s Ark Encounter when it first started posts her story now that she’s left.

She writes of a culture of employee abuse, bullying, chronically low pay (even lower than the general area), and accuses this toxic culture goes all the way to Ken Ham.

She says she moved from Michigan to work in Kentucky, and worked in every department at AiG.

Facebook Post

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ericblair  Jun 29, 2019 • 1:55:57am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹
Security

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 2:56:42am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 3:02:26am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 3:10:27am

bbc.com

Berlin Brandenburg Airport was completed in 2012, designed as a state-of-the-art airport to help the newly reunified Germany become a principal air hub for Europe.

As of yet, not a single plane has landed there. Equipment which has never been used is being replaced because it has aged out. Employees run equipment each day to prevent it from seizing up. The so-called smart hotel has never had a customer.

BER has become for Germany not a new source of pride but a symbol of engineering catastrophe. It’s what top global infrastructure expert Bent Flyvbjerg calls a “national trauma” and an ideal way “to learn how not to do things”.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 3:18:13am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2019 • 3:20:03am

Next step in prisons-for-profit?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 3:28:17am

On this day in history, the GOP launched its largest socialist programme.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 29, 2019 • 3:33:33am

Adorable baby sloth finds a new home - BBC

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 3:44:52am

Under this Website’s tab “Christian Persecution”:

School Removes 92-Year-Old Ten Commandments Plaque after Atheists Complain (goes to Christian Headlines)

It’s all the Freedom from Religion Foundation’s hateful atheists’ fault that we ignored a Supreme Court ruling all the way back to 1980 about this. (FFRF does not write a letter to an organisation about violating the Establishment Clause of the Constitution unless someone in that area asks FFRF to do so - and FFRF has a whole bunch of Christians who are members, but Lying for Jesus never stopped butthurt wingnuts.)

An Ohio middle school has removed a 1920s-era Ten Commandments plaque following complaints from an atheist organization.

The plaque at Welty Middle School in New Philadelphia, Ohio, was a gift from the Class of 1926 to the school district in 1972 and had been on display for 92 years until the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation got involved. The organization, in an April letter to the district, called the plaque a “fragrant violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.”

Yes, it is. How about that.

“The district’s promotion of the Judeo-Christian bible and religion over nonreligion impermissibly turns any non-Christian or non-believing student into an outsider,” the letter said. “Schoolchildren already feel significant pressure to conform to their peers. They must not be subjected to similar pressure from their schools, especially on religious questions.”

That’s what the law says. There is more about the case on how Christians are being persecuted in Ohio at the link.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 3:57:32am

Trump tariffs are, once again, threatening the last TV assembly plant in America (Goes to The Verge)

The plant is in South Carolina. It employs about two hundred people and assembles television sets for Wal*Mart. Some of the parts are made in China.

They were poised to close last summer when Trump imposed tariffs on China, until he exempted television components. The plant opened in 2012.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 4:08:44am

Canada’s Election Modernisation Act goes into effect Sunday.

The purpose of this act is to limit the amount of money political parties can spend on adverts prior to the start of an election campaign period.

cbc.ca

The Election Modernization Act introduced rules governing what can and can’t be done in the months leading up to a federal election.

It defines the length of federal election campaigns, restricts the amount of spending allowed in the period immediately before a campaign, works to prevent foreign interference and introduces new rules to regulate third-party political activity.

Political parties can now spend a maximum of $2 million on advertising in the pre-writ period. With a fixed election date of Oct. 21, that timeline starts June 30 and ends once the writ has dropped. But those spending limits are raised significantly the day the campaign begins.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2019 • 4:18:48am

re: #24 teleskiguy

I consider myself a very elder Millennial (born 1982). I was the first person in my whole family to use the Internet.

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

Does that make me an elder Millennial? I was also the first person in my family to use the Internet (born 1960). /s

War Baby ‘44. I was the first person in my family to use ARPAnet.

(Love to one-up the youngsters in the morning. Where’s my shillelagh? Where’s my coffee?)

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Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2019 • 4:33:04am

Russia plans to tow a nuclear power station to the Arctic. Critics dub it a ‘floating Chernobyl’
cnn.com

This is not a new thing. Decades ago the US Army had 1-2 nuclear power “barges” stationed temporarily in Antartica and (IIRC) Alaska.

*Designated barges because they were transport ships whose propulsion had been stripped out, thus towed.

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DangerMan  Jun 29, 2019 • 4:35:00am

All that July fourth nonsense in Washington this year, “vip” section, speeches, etc

Guys a dick

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Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2019 • 4:39:33am

re: #80 DangerMan

All that July fourth nonsense in Washington this year, “vip” section, speeches, etc

Guys a dick

“When the battle is going badly, put out more flags.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 5:08:04am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹

On this day in history, the GOP launched its largest socialist programme.

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a military program as well, inspired by how well the US military was able to move its forces along Germany’s autobahn network

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2019 • 5:18:26am

re: #24 teleskiguy

I consider myself a very elder Millennial (born 1982). I was the first person in my whole family to use the Internet.

82 sounds about right for the start date. Puts your HS graduation in 2000 plus I think about music and pop culture too as you got at.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 5:19:49am

re: #83 HappyWarrior

82 sounds about right for the start date. Puts your HS graduation in 2000 plus I think about music and pop culture too as you got at.

It is about the sensibilities and morality that you grew up under…the Age of Clinton…the Culture Wars…the birth of the modern Corporate digital state.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 29, 2019 • 5:29:36am
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jeffreyw  Jun 29, 2019 • 5:40:05am

Good morning!

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 29, 2019 • 5:46:24am

re: #86 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

whoa!

These videos made me a little misty this morning.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:12:09am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

This is awful. A woman who went to work for Answers in Genesis’s Ark Encounter when it first started posts her story now that she’s left.

She writes of a culture of employee abuse, bullying, chronically low pay (even lower than the general area), and accuses this toxic culture goes all the way to Ken Ham.

She says she moved from Michigan to work in Kentucky, and worked in every department at AiG.

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I’m a little lost. She’s a woman. She’s working at a place who’d institute The Handmaid’s Tale as policy. What was she expecting?

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:14:31am

re: #59 Dread Pirate

Trump’s only real evaluation of someone’s worth is how much evil shit they can get away with and not be held accountable for it. And that’s about it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:15:43am

re: #88 MsJ

I’m a little lost. She’s a woman. She’s working at a place who’d institute The Handmaid’s Tale as policy. What was she expecting?

Exactly, she knew what she was getting into.

If Ham can find answers in Genesis, then he can also find other justifications for his actions in the Old Testament. They love them some patriarchy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:16:05am

re: #89 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Trump’s only real evaluation of someone’s worth is how much evil shit they can get away with and not get held accountable for it. And that’s about it.

How much evil shit they can to to benefit him.

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DangerMan  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:33:08am

re: #86 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

cartoon physics…don’t look down!

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BlueGrl21  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:33:11am

re: #83 HappyWarrior

82 sounds about right for the start date. Puts your HS graduation in 2000 plus I think about music and pop culture too as you got at.

I’m 46, smack in the middle of Gen X.

I identify with everything except grunge. Blech.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:40:43am

re: #86 jeffreyw

Hmm. Oh goodie. I got the buffet to myself.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:57:31am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

Canada’s Election Modernisation Act goes into effect Sunday.

The purpose of this act is to limit the amount of money political parties can spend on adverts prior to the start of an election campaign period.

cbc.ca

OH THANK GOD!

I’m so tired of seeing the negativity from Canada’s conservatives.

Last year it was all meeting and humanizing Patrick Brown (predator, who dropped our running for Prime Minister because his predation was discovered, but recently ran for and won Mayor of Brampton)… Then they switched to frequent commercials for Andrew Schear 🤢🤮. I’m tired of them. All negative now.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:57:40am

re: #88 MsJ

I’m a little lost. She’s a woman. She’s working at a place who’d institute The Handmaid’s Tale as policy. What was she expecting?

I suspect she expected “Christian” behavior and a little respect.

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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2019 • 6:58:59am

re: #93 BlueGrl21

I identify with everything except grunge. Blech.

At 55, almost 56, I’m in between Boomer & X.

As for grunge, eh, it was ok and Nirvana put a stake through the heart of the musical vampires of hair metal and that alone is worth remembering them fondly for. But I always had a bigger fondness for punk, hardcore and really early alternative (The ‘Mat’s forex) with intelligent metal (Blue Oyster Cult, etc) along with it.

And The Who was the only 60’s band that mattered.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:00:04am

re: #85 Barefoot Grin

GROSS. Like Mama birds puking up breakfast.

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:03:57am

re: #96 Feline Fearless Leader

I suspect she expected “Christian” behavior and a little respect.

These days that’s mutually exclusive.

I get there are good Christians. But they’re silent in the face of the loud and proud bad ones.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:04:56am

re: #97 William Lewis

At 55, almost 56, I’m in between Boomer & X.

As for grunge, eh, it was ok and Nirvana put a stake through the heart of the musical vampires of hair metal and that alone is worth remembering them fondly for. But I always had a bigger fondness for punk, hardcore and really early alternative (The ‘Mat’s forex) with intelligent metal (Blue Oyster Cult, etc) along with it.

And The Who was the only 60’s band that mattered.

I liked 90’s bands with a bit of wit and irony like Blink-182, Cake or even Bloodhound Gang, not sullen, serious, self-absorbed grunge.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:08:14am

re: #93 BlueGrl21

re: #97 William Lewis

Right now I am in my 50’s and because of that my tastes for music is in classical mode and my TV is “locked” on PBS. All of that and I think the internet is a bit of a blessing and a curse. :)

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Weaselone  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:09:25am

re: #99 MsJ

These days that’s mutually exclusive.

I get there are good Christians. But they’re silent in the face of the loud and proud bad ones.

1. Some are speaking out, but they don’t tend to get the same media exposure as their opposites.
2. Even in the bad churches, you have people like her who have to go through a massive ordeal just to confirm that yes this is a bad situation and despite all my efforts, I can’t improve this internally.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:10:39am

re: #102 Weaselone

1. Some are speaking out, but they don’t tend to get the same media exposure as their opposites.
2. Even in the bad churches, you have people like her who have to go through a massive ordeal just to confirm that yes this is a bad situation and despite all my efforts, I can’t improve this internally.

Mayor Pete has been speaking out clearly against the Mike Pence-style pseudochristians.

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Weaselone  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:13:22am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mayor Pete has been speaking out clearly against the Mike Pence-style pseudochristians.

Given all the antichristians in office in this country, he has his work cut out for him.

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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:14:45am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mayor Pete has been speaking out clearly against the Mike Pence-style pseudochristians.

I’ll happily admit it’s one big reason I’d like to see him as the VP candidate.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:15:08am

re: #97 William Lewis

I am in the Boomer-X gap as well. (Just turned 55 last week.)

Never a hair metal fan (guess it helped that a few assholes I dealt with growing up and in college were big KISS fans. Though that I also meant that I did not listen to Rush either.) My tastes migrated into prog rock fairly early on and have stayed there. Older Genesis and Yes, ELP, and so on. Favorite band is probably Dire Straits though.

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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:15:39am

re: #104 Weaselone

Given all the antichristians in office in this country, he has his work cut out for him.

I’ve said more than once, given the example of the so-called evangelicals, becoming an atheist is a godly response.

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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:16:24am

re: #106 Feline Fearless Leader

I am in the Boomer-X gap as well. (Just turned 55 last week.)

Never a hair metal fan (guess it helped that a few assholes I dealt with growing up and in college were big KISS fans. Though that I also meant that I did not listen to Rush either.) My tastes migrated into prog rock fairly early on and have stayed there. Older Genesis and Yes, ELP, and so on. Favorite band is probably Dire Straits though.

Mark Knopfler is the greatest essentially unknown guitarist in rock.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:18:47am

re: #108 William Lewis

Mark Knopfler is the greatest essentially unknown guitarist in rock.

I don’t know if Knopfler ever worked with Peter Gabriel, but that would be a combination I’d like to see. Even more so with Levin on bass. :)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:23:23am

Hmm. Have noticed a pattern in where the cats are napping. It’s 80s-low 90s outside and low 70s in the house due to the A/C. The cats are either on the bed or chair nestled on a blanket, sleeping on a window sill (only if the window is partially open), and one is napping at the top of the stairs. So they are going for insulation warmth of a spot in the house that is 5-6 degrees warmer due to the hot air moving around.

Your new laptop is not as good a butt warmer as the old one.
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:23:42am

We used to be big into bands that were big in the UK but had not made major waves in the US, so we were into Pink Floyd before Dark Side of the Moon, Genesis before Peter Gabriel left, Queen, Yes and ELP all before they started filling stadiums.

We were also into bands that never really made it big in the US like Barclay James Harvest, Hawkwind, Lyndisfarne and T Rex.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:25:30am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:25:34am

Mark Knopfler is awesome. I loved also when he played with Mick Taylor on Dylan’s Infidels.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:26:02am

re: #96 Feline Fearless Leader

I suspect she expected “Christian” behavior and a little respect.

There are places she might find that. The Church of Barnum&Bailey is not one of them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:26:50am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:28:14am

I encourage my teenage son to play his playlists in the car. Some of it is pretty good, though tbh i can’t remember any names. Mostly hip hop.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:29:26am

re: #106 Feline Fearless Leader

I am in the Boomer-X gap as well. (Just turned 55 last week.)

Never a hair metal fan (guess it helped that a few assholes I dealt with growing up and in college were big KISS fans. Though that I also meant that I did not listen to Rush either.) My tastes migrated into prog rock fairly early on and have stayed there. Older Genesis and Yes, ELP, and so on. Favorite band is probably Dire Straits though.

Grew up on Palestrina, Bach, and the Andrews Sisters. Then the nuns showed Rock Around the Clock for our Friday night movie. We had cool nuns.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:30:26am

re: #116 Barefoot Grin

I encourage my teenage son to play his playlists in the car. Some of it is pretty good, though tbh i can’t remember any names. Mostly hip hop.

My 17-year-old daughter is big into modern bands like 21 Pilots, who are good songwriters, Panic! at the Disco and My Chemical Romance, who also do some pretty solid stuff.

For that, she also appreciates Captain Beefheart and They Might be Giants, bless her heart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:32:05am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:33:17am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:34:38am

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Grew up on Palestrina, Bach, and the Andrews Sisters. Then the nuns showed Rock Around the Clock for our Friday night movie. We had cool nuns.

My early music exposure was pretty broad. My parents played music at dinner; classical and Broadway show stuff. Bach, Mozart, etc. My siblings were 4-6 years older than me and thus had small record collections and such before I was even thinking of getting things like 45s. (All I can recall at this time is my sister had Chicago, Cat Stevens, and David Essex records. My brother had Rolling Stones, Eagles, and Bob Dylan*.)

* - When I moved and finally gave up on vinyl and got rid of my collection (which was made up on my, my siblings, and my parents’ records) I got $25 for that fairly beat up copy of “Blood On the Tracks”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:36:19am
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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:40:00am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We fell into that odd cusp, sort of baby boomers, all my (older brothers and sisters) never got into anything hippie or alternative, my youngest sister liked Beatlemania but lost interest in them when they went psychedelic.

I “rediscovered” Sergeant Pepper and Satannic Majesties, early Pink Floyd, the Grateful Dead and bands like that thanks to the underground FM stations in Chicago, but always felt rather out of place with my peers, who were into thud bands Bachman Turner Overdrive or disco.

My mother said that there was a major break between me and my brother. (1948 and 1951) She said the difference between us and our friends and our culture was big. I was a young Boomer, and Bill and his buds always seemed to be different.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:41:25am

re: #93 BlueGrl21

I’m 46, smack in the middle of Gen X.

I identify with everything except grunge. Blech.

Same, 45 turning 46 in August. Only I grew up around Seattle and went to the UW in the 90’s so am required to enjoy grunge.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:44:13am

Can’t get enough of Argyle Socks Girl.

Bill Haley & His Comets - Rock Around The Clock (1955) HD

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:47:16am

re: #102 Weaselone

1. Some are speaking out, but they don’t tend to get the same media exposure as their opposites.
2. Even in the bad churches, you have people like her who have to go through a massive ordeal just to confirm that yes this is a bad situation and despite all my efforts, I can’t improve this internally.

I get it. Same with William. But the ramifications of what’s happening are severe and I can’t imagine all this doing anything but turning people away from religion.

I’m an atheist (raised Jewish) who’s always been “whatever works for you” but I can’t feel that way now. I’m appalled by religion, by the hypocrisy, by the utter contempt of these supposed religious people that they heap on the poor and helpless.

I’m more Christian than many who call themselves Christan. And it pisses me off. Not only am I marginalized for not believing but those who dole out hate are lionized.

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unproven innocence  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:53:05am

re: #110 Feline Fearless Leader
[snip]
Your new laptop is not as good a butt warmer as the old one.

With luck, yours won’t evaluate your laptop’s keyboard as a scratching post.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:54:36am
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sagehen  Jun 29, 2019 • 7:55:46am

re: #99 MsJ

These days that’s mutually exclusive.

I get there are good Christians. But they’re silent in the face of the loud and proud bad ones.

Kind of like cops that way.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:04:29am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:08:10am

re: #130 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He is still trying to take money from other sources for his wall. DT is such an idiot.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:09:09am

re: #131 PhillyPretzel

He could always ask Mexico.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:09:32am

Morning Lizardim from the hot and humid wild north country. This is going to be roasting day, the conjunction of summer heat and open sun. Supposed to rain the rest of the weekend and bring the temperatures down by the 4th, which will be a nice relief.

re: #129 sagehen

Kind of like cops that way.

Those of us who are “good Christians” are trying to speak up. The problem is that the leaders in the Christian community are the bad ones - the good ones are just the rank and file, and making our voices heard is hard when I’m just a poor schmuck in a pew. It gets a little irritating, to be honest - both that there doesn’t seem to be anything I can do about it, and that people complain about our silence when it’s not by choice.

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Old Liberal  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:10:09am

re: #99 MsJ

These days that’s mutually exclusive.

I get there are good Christians. But they’re silent in the face of the loud and proud bad ones.

One of the problems is that even in mainstream denominations, there are enough conservatives in the pews to frustrate efforts to speak out. Lutheran churches in the last decade and split over gay acceptance, prior to that they spit over women clergy.

The only hope for the christian religion is facism. Otherwise it is over.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:15:07am

re: #133 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It is hazy, hot and humid in Philly. There are supposed to be some thunderstorms this afternoon.
weather.gov

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:16:43am

re: #127 unproven innocence

[snip]
Your new laptop is not as good a butt warmer as the old one.

With luck, yours won’t evaluate your laptop’s keyboard as a scratching post.

One of the cat’s did pull a key off the keyboard of that particular laptop with her claws.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:27:26am

Heat wave in Germany is supposed to peak tomorrow with upper 90’s and then ease back down to normal summer temps

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Old Liberal  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:28:20am

Here in South America, the catholic church hasn’t done anything to help with the Venezuelan refugee situation. Very few residents in this city attend mass. Many (probably most) recognize that the church takes and gives nothing back. There are foreigners here who have a soup kitchen for refugees, and they got a catholic church agree to let them serve lunch in the building but the church does nothing but construct obstacles to the continuation of this project. Whether its the Russian orthodox church, the roman catholic church, the american evangelical churches, it seems they’ve all taken their 30 pieces of silver and are determined to establish and protect their earthly kingdoms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:33:06am

re: #138 Old Liberal

Whether its the Russian orthodox church, the roman catholic church, the american evangelical churches, it seems they’ve all taken their 30 pieces of silver and are determined to establish and protect their earthly kingdoms.

That is the issue with any organized religion: the more the organization, the less religious they are.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:38:46am
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mmmirele  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:49:16am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

This is awful. A woman who went to work for Answers in Genesis’s Ark Encounter when it first started posts her story now that she’s left.

She writes of a culture of employee abuse, bullying, chronically low pay (even lower than the general area), and accuses this toxic culture goes all the way to Ken Ham.

She says she moved from Michigan to work in Kentucky, and worked in every department at AiG.

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Looks to me like Ken Ham is playing fast and loose with the wage and hour laws. She indicates people who would not normally be in managerial roles were being paid on salary and working 65-80 hours a week. This would not surprise me at all and needs to be investigated further. My evil too big to fail employer reclassified thousands of employees from exempt to non-exempt in the mid ’00s after a lawsuit because we were definitely not managers.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:49:42am

LOL to both!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:51:25am

re: #141 mmmirele

Looks to me like Ken Ham is playing fast and loose with the wage and hour laws.

Jesus does not respect wage and hour laws, remember how those who showed up at the end of the day to work the masters vineyards were paid the same wages as those who had toiled all day?

The Bible has an answer for everything.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:51:35am

re: #141 mmmirele

Looks to me like Ken Ham is playing fast and loose with the wage and hour laws. She indicates people who would not normally be in managerial roles were being paid on salary and working 65-80 hours a week. This would not surprise me at all and needs to be investigated further. My evil too big to fail employer reclassified thousands of employees from exempt to non-exempt in the mid ’00s after a lawsuit because we were definitely not managers.

I remember when I first went from NE to E… No overtime and I got paid once a month. The latter took a heck of a lot of adjustment period.

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Old Liberal  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:52:58am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Jesus does not respect wage and hour laws, remember how those who showed up at the end of the day to work the masters vineyards were paid the same wages as those who had toiled all day?

The Bible has an answer for everything.

Hilarious!!! Well-played.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 8:56:40am

re: #145 Old Liberal

Hilarious!!! Well-played.

Except I can just hear bastards like Ham advancing that argument against wage and labor laws. Remember, they see this (or at least sell this) as doing God’s Work (with the help of generous tax breaks from the state government)

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Skip Intro  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:01:08am

re: #80 DangerMan

All that July fourth nonsense in Washington this year, “vip” section, speeches, etc

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Guys a dick

I wondered earlier how he’d keep the “wrong people” from getting near him, and now I know. White House “VIP” passes, to turn it into just another Trump nazi rally.

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Old Liberal  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:04:45am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Except I can just hear bastards like Ham advancing that argument against wage and labor laws. Remember, they see this (or at least sell this) as doing God’s Work (with the help of generous tax breaks from the state government)

Well, I guess if people have strongly held religious beliefs that they should be paid slave-labor wages, or their employer has strongly held beliefs, they will be exempted by the supreme court. The bible does affirm slavery, after all.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:06:29am

re: #140 I Would Prefer Not To

And look at Trump’s face. My 87 year old dad with dementia has that expression constantly. He has no f’n clue where he is, or what he’s doing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:07:02am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:09:54am

re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yes. He does not understand modern tech at all. ::: eye roll :::

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mmmirele  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:14:51am

re: #102 Weaselone

1. Some are speaking out, but they don’t tend to get the same media exposure as their opposites.
2. Even in the bad churches, you have people like her who have to go through a massive ordeal just to confirm that yes this is a bad situation and despite all my efforts, I can’t improve this internally.

The Washington Post had an article about the bloggers who exposed the child sex abuse crisis in Protestant (particularly Southern Baptist) churches on June 3. (Note, I am friends with Darlene Parsons, one of the subjects of the article.)

washingtonpost.com

Some newspapers have also taken up investigations. The Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Express-News have put together a large database of Southern Baptist predators, one that the organization has resisted doing for a long time. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram did a series last year about the way Independent Fundamental Baptist churches move around sexual predators. The Fresno Bee exposed serial sexual predation at a Southern Baptist church, going back to the 1970s. One of those pastors had come here to Scottsdale and ended up the head of a megachurch. He ended up getting the boot.

Things are happening, it’s just very slow. I remember watching the Spotlight movie and how frustrated one of the reporters was about not going forward with what they had and his editor telling him, no we really need to tie this to the church, we’re not done yet. And then 9/11 happened, so the expose got pushed to February 2002. Thing is, we’re a generation into this, and the Catholic church is still holding evidence back and it also looks like they’re a bunch of recidivists who, in almost any other “industry”, would have government oversight because of the thoroughgoing sexual abuse of minors and continued corruption. But religion, we treat it differently here.

As for the young woman, I get the impression she’s still very young. I wouldn’t be too hard on her. In between her age, her general ignorance (hello, six day creation?) and the way Evangelicals and Fundamentalist Christians treat women as doormats, it’s actually amazing that she’s speaking out as she is. She has been told (by men, naturally) that she should have gone the Matthew 18 route. I’ve let those men know that in the case of wage and hour violations (of which I think there have been some), the state should be involved, and it not be a private discussion between people with massive power differentials.

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plansbandc  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:16:53am

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah, the neighbors have been setting off bombs for a week. Late night too. Glad my dog isn’t scared of loud noises.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:18:41am

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

My neighbors have been firing them off almost every day. Some of the posts on my Ring doorbell are about the loud noises.

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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:20:05am

washingtonpost.com

About DT and Putin joking about getting rid of “fake news” as well as the rape accusation against DT, both just dropping into the well of forgetfulness.

That this happened on the first anniversary of the massacre of five employees of the Capital Gazette in Annapolis probably never occurred to him — nor would his staff remind him of something as apparently inconsequential to the administration as that horror.

The rape accusation, it appears, has failed to make any dent in Trump’s reputation.

And it was largely downplayed by the cowed media — it never even got a hearing on the network Sunday news shows last weekend, just days after it hit. (The Washington Post was alone among major papers in putting it on its front page; The Post has also written a searing editorial on the subject.)

For many, if not most, the reaction can be summed up like this: We already knew that about him. Why would this matter?

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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:23:39am

re: #155 retired cynic

by Margaret Sullivan. More…

So, putting it plainly, Trump is joking with a foreign adversary about two of the most basic elements of American democracy: voting integrity and the role of free press.

And he has the gall to accuse the press of treason?

Those who call themselves Americans should be disgusted by what Trump did in Osaka.

That many won’t feel that way is almost as serious a betrayal of our bedrock values as what Trump himself has done — and will continue to do.

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wrenchwench  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:24:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:39:00am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:39:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:40:34am

gaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:41:54am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am sure quite a few of the attendees muttered something else.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:43:46am

Those damn Socialists

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:44:48am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:45:10am

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I rather have Ike than DT.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:46:53am

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Back when Republicans supported birth control too. Hell of a thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 9:49:13am

re: #165 Ace Rothstein

Back when Republicans supported birth control too. Hell of a thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:04:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:06:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:08:35am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:13:34am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

He deserves a steak for that deed. :)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:21:51am
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Belafon  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:41:01am

re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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We should put him in a catapult and tell him it’s a launcher for a stealth Air Force One.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:44:53am

re: #172 Belafon

We should put him in a catapult and tell him it’s a launcher for a stealth Air Force One.

Stealth Space Force!

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:49:34am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Maybe we will get lucky and he will go to the moon. /half

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:59:38am

He hasn’t been told what to say yet.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 10:59:57am

Tom Nichols is already on board.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:00:43am

Black presidential candidate “cashing in on segregation.”
Give me a fucking break.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:05:36am

re: #177 jaunte

Didn’t they say that about Obama?

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mmmirele  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:12:29am

Earlier this week, I introduced you to this loser, who is a recently installed pastor at Apologia church (where I picket on Sundays) and a stone racist.

To confirm his stone racism, here’s a tweet from today criticizing California for telling employers they can’t discriminate against people with natural hair.

While he will not be a *direct* target of my protesting tomorrow, I plan on parking my SUV on the street in front of the sidewalk leading into the church (not blocking anybody, mind you) and putting a few signs up giving him grief. I knew I’d find a use for that cheapass poster board I bought from Amazon (so cheap you have to double it up to make it work properly). It’s bad enough that we have people who want to execute women for having abortions in the neighborhood, but stone racists? NOPE.

ETA to add more racist bullshit:

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:17:49am
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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:22:48am

There has to be some kind of internal competition at the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg over who can get American conservatives to latch onto the most outlandish ahistorical idiocy of the week.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:24:29am

re: #181 jaunte

There has to be some kind of internal competition at the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg over who can get American conservatives to latch onto the most outlandish ahistorical idiocy of the week.

They know American history better than most Americans, and certainly better than their target audience.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:25:16am

re: #181 jaunte

I just went over to Wiki and nothing was mentioned about green cards or visas in regard to Ellis Island. And another search of green cards said they came about in 1952.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:29:03am

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

Barry Moreno, historian and librarian at the Ellis Island Immigration Museum:

“Now, in 1907, no passports or visas were needed to enter the United States. In fact, no papers were required at all. This was a paperless period. All you had to do was verbally give information to the official when you boarded ship in Europe and that information was the only information used when they arrived.”
history.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:29:37am

re: #180 jaunte

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my maternal grandfather (the Roma) showed up at Ellis Island with no documents other than his name on the ship’s manifest.

and there was no proof required that he was that person.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:29:50am

“How Grandpa Trump got to The United States.”

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:29:55am

re: #184 jaunte

Thanks. That is another source. :)

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:30:40am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

My great-grandfather just left his whaling ship when they touched in San Francisco.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:32:17am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

my maternal grandfather (the Roma) showed up at Ellis Island with no documents other than his name on the ship’s manifest.

and there was no proof required that he was that person.

oh, and that was around 1904, give or take a couple of years.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:33:08am

re: #188 jaunte

Other ports along the Eastern Seaboard of the US took people in the same way. My mom’s dad came in through the Port of Boston.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:36:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:37:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:38:05am

This all highlights how badly we need comprehensive reform of US immigration and naturalization laws, policies and procedures.

But we are not about to get that as long as too many people have a vested interest in the status quo, namely entire industries that rely on an endless pool of cheap, easily exploited labor: agriculture, food processing, food service, janitorial and domestic cleaning, hotel and resort service, gardening, landscaping, construction, etc…

They do not mind if it gets harder for immigrants to find a way to get in, that makes the people even more desperate about just keeping their mouths shut, working hard and not drawing any attention to themselves, the ideal victims.

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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:38:37am

re: #179 mmmirele

I doubt that he would understand what happened if he accidentally opened his yap and something that wasn’t blasphemous came out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:40:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:41:44am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Giant African Snails about the size of a human foot found in luggage at Atlanta airport

are these not the ones that crawl up the walls of your house and eat the stucco right off?

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:49:52am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exciting new plague for the Everglades.

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wrenchwench  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:51:22am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From there;

The skittish snails inside were equally strange looking…

Skittish snails? Very strange.

Doing their best to be ‘wild’ life, documented or not.

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stpaulbear  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:52:13am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Hill
✔
@thehill
President Trump: “All of the leaders have come up and said it’s incredible what’s happened with the United States…

They’re not lying. What he’s doing to the US is incredible. Totally without credibility. Not credible at all.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:52:58am

re: #199 stpaulbear

They didn’t call him “sir?”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:53:16am

re: #133 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim from the hot and humid wild north country. This is going to be roasting day, the conjunction of summer heat and open sun. Supposed to rain the rest of the weekend and bring the temperatures down by the 4th, which will be a nice relief.

Those of us who are “good Christians” are trying to speak up. The problem is that the leaders in the Christian community are the bad ones - the good ones are just the rank and file, and making our voices heard is hard when I’m just a poor schmuck in a pew. It gets a little irritating, to be honest - both that there doesn’t seem to be anything I can do about it, and that people complain about our silence when it’s not by choice.

Rev Barber stands up, gets arrested, put on trial and convicted. The Republican Bullshit Machine calls him a Marxist.

Not a single Xtian preacher comes to his defense.

And the overwhelming coverage of this superstitious bullshit goes to Pulpit Pimps who endlessly kiss Trump’s ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:54:14am

re: #200 jaunte

They didn’t call him “sir?”

and cry?

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:54:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 11:55:42am

re: #203 jaunte

For those of you keepin’ score at home, Vladimir Putin is “terrific guy”, John McCain is a loser and Robert Mueller is a criminal

Not to forget that Elizabeth Warren is Pocahontas and Barack Obama is a Kenyan

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Skip Intro  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:02:16pm

re: #203 jaunte

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Trade, Trump style. We’ll give you all of our secrets and you send all of your spys. Win-win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:02:47pm
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Teukka  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:02:55pm

So this scrolled by in a group I’m in… Sorry if this has been posted before…

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Skip Intro  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:05:34pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump doesn’t need to read anything. He knows and he approves.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:07:06pm

re: #207 Teukka

So this scrolled by in a group I’m in… Sorry if this has been posted before…

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…but in the US context “centrists” is also people who believe in feeding all babies into wood chippers but laying down plastic before hand because…sheesh people, do try and be civil….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:08:26pm

re: #209 The Ghost of Quesos Past

…but in the US context “centrists” is largely people who believe in feeding all babies into wood chippers but laying down plastic before hand because…sheesh people, do try and be civil….

but not single-use plastic

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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:11:47pm

The Subtext of the Democratic Debate, by Nancy LeTourneau in Washington Monthly:

While the candidates all had a lot of important things to say, the three who took command of the room are the ones who did the best job of tapping into the subtext of the 2020 election for Democrats.

I agree with her, but would add Buttigieg to the list. I still think he is too young, and needs some broadening, but the basic command is there. (Her three were Booker, Castro and Harris.)

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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:15:45pm

How Post Offices Can Beat Payday Lenders by Michael Waters in Washington Monthly.

Living outside a very small town in the smallest county in Illinois, I am a very strong supporter of the post office, and absolutely appalled at any efforts to cut it back or privatize its services. This amendment gives me something else to support. I know people around here who do not have any banking options except payday lenders, and it makes my hair stand on end. I hope they are successful (but bet there are going to be corporations fighting this hammer and tongs).

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Teukka  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:16:07pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

So if G20 delegates begin dropping like flies, we’ll know…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:18:30pm

When all the excitement about “Commander-in-Chief” and “National Leader” is over, the job we hire the President to do is to run the Executive Branch. That’s the day-to-day gotta-do grind. How many of our candidates have ever seen the Executive Branch up close?

(No, my fav hasn’t either.)

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Teukka  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:21:05pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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KGxvi  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:23:25pm

re: #215 Teukka

Is he afraid of poisoning?

When you do illegal/immoral shit, you assume everyone does it… so, yeah, he’s probably afraid of poisoning.

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Teukka  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:24:49pm

re: #216 KGxvi

When you do illegal/immoral shit, you assume everyone does it… so, yeah, he’s probably afraid of poisoning.

Yeah. Either that, or some sort of shenanigans, pathogen or toxin, holding cure or antidote hostage to ensure favorable treatment.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:25:56pm

I can’t help note that there’s a Molly Jong-Fast article shit-talking the inclusion of Marianne Williamson in the Democratic debates.

Absent, of course, any self awareness about the Republican Party’s candidates being mostly quackery and grift, such that quackery and grift are the ground floor not the exception, such that while Marianne Williamson is a joke Donald Trump is POTUS.

I mean even if we just limit our sampling to medical bullshit, the entire Republican field drinks from the sewer grating of woo.

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KGxvi  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:27:19pm

re: #214 Decatur Deb

When all the excitement about “Commander-in-Chief” and “National Leader” is over, the job we hire the President to do is to run the Executive Branch. That’s the day-to-day gotta-do grind. How many of our candidates have ever seen the Executive Branch up close?

(No, my fav hasn’t either.)

Most presidents had not seen the federal executive branch up close until they are sworn in. GHW Bush probably had the most experience with it, particularly among modern (post-Depression Era) presidents. This is one of the reasons, historically, governors would have an advantage, because they had run executive branches in the past (though none of the states have anywhere near the difficulties that you do at the federal level).

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KGxvi  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:28:12pm

re: #217 Teukka

Yeah. Either that, or some sort of shenanigans, pathogen or toxin, holding cure or antidote hostage to ensure favorable treatment.

An act of war against 19 nations, simultaneously, seems like a less than strategically smart move.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:29:10pm

re: #219 KGxvi

Most presidents had not seen the federal executive branch up close until they are sworn in. GHW Bush probably had the most experience with it, particularly among modern (post-Depression Era) presidents. This is one of the reasons, historically, governors would have an advantage, because they had run executive branches in the past (though none of the states have anywhere near the difficulties that you do at the federal level).

Secretary of State and Vice President have been the historical “internship”. FDR did well with SECNAV.

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Teukka  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:31:58pm

re: #220 KGxvi

An act of war against 19 nations, simultaneously, seems like a less than strategically smart move.

True. But it could help to unify the country against external foes.

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KGxvi  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:33:40pm

re: #212 retired cynic

How Post Offices Can Beat Payday Lenders by Michael Waters in Washington Monthly.

Living outside a very small town in the smallest county in Illinois, I am a very strong supporter of the post office, and absolutely appalled at any efforts to cut it back or privatize its services. This amendment gives me something else to support. I know people around here who do not have any banking options except payday lenders, and it makes my hair stand on end. I hope they are successful (but bet there are going to be corporations fighting this hammer and tongs).

I’d go a step further - charter a Third Bank of the US (the fact that Trump’s idol Andrew Jackson killed the Second Bank makes it even better) - you can set up teller services at post offices, but that can be just the beginning. Open actual branches throughout the country.

Government as a market participant (why I support a public option over simply eliminating the private insurance market) can move the market as effectively as government as a market regulator. Give people a choice, a better option, and watch the private entities change their actions to fit with what the market actually demands.

(That’s in addition to breaking up the big banks - I’m still confused as to how the response to “Too Big To Fail” was “LET’S MAKE THEM ALL BIGGER!”)

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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:36:51pm

re: #223 KGxvi

I’m with you.

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plansbandc  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:37:22pm

re: #126 MsJ

This is just about where I’m at though I’m a lapsed Christian pushing towards agnostic. Cannot stand what a lot of Christians have become.

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KGxvi  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:41:39pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Secretary of State and Vice President have been the historical “internship”. FDR did well with SECNAV.

Especially since the 25th Amendment, incumbent and former VPs tend to get nominations if they run. But governors have done pretty well as well; and that’s what FDR served as before becoming president. Otherwise it’s Senators. Secretary of State sort of dropped off after they changed the electoral college voting method, Clinton was I think the first person to hold a cabinet position immediately before being nominated in quite a while.

VPs - Nixon (twice), Humphrey, Mondale, GHW Bush, Gore
Governors - Carter, Reagan, Clinton, GW Bush, Romney
Senators - Kennedy, Goldwater, McGovern, Dole, Kerry, Obama, McCain

(I’m not counting LBJ or Ford as VPs since they assumed the office of president without an election)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2019 • 12:50:33pm

re: #220 KGxvi

An act of war against 19 nations, simultaneously, seems like a less than strategically smart move.

no one said these asshats were astute

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 29, 2019 • 4:04:13pm

re: #85 Barefoot Grin

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Funny and disturbing at the same time.


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